Part II of the Climbing in Thailand series: Yesterday Whitney joined us to help us get packed and take off for Thailand; today she brings in her experience on the climbing of this beautiful country and what you need to know to navigate it as well as where to stay and what to do on your rest days. Have any additional tips, comments or questions? Share with us below the post!
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Before the trip I researched everything I could find about what to bring and places to stay and ultimately I think it's rather easy to plan for this trip, once you know where to start. Below are some of my suggestions for making the most of your trip to TonSai and Railay, Thailand:
Research the routes: Purchase the climbing guidebook before going and take a look at it in advance. I have a difficult time recommending only the newest guidebook, because both were useful. The newest guidebook, The Pocket Guide by Sirichai Pongsopon (which we bought once we got over there) is more up to date on route information, however the older book Thailand: A Climbing Guide by Sam Lightner Jr. has detailed information about the routes, Railay and TonSai itself. It's my first pick!
I would suggest taking a look at the routes you want to climb online to see how the grades compare to the book and also recent information on bolting.
What to bring: We had no problem getting our laundry washed for a couple of dollars while we were there, but it was still nice to have about 3 tops and 3 bottoms to alternate between for climbing. The amount of walking you do, plus the humidity (I've never sweat so much in my life) equals smelly climbing clothes. Because of the humidity, I found that if I hand-washed my climbing clothes they were never dry the next day.
We brought our own gear, which doesn't always make traveling easy, but knowing where a rope has been is a good feeling. We brought 12 draws which turned out to be enough. If you do need to rent gear, there are plenty of options.
I brought two pairs of climbing shoes. One aggressive pair and one old pair, but I only ended up using my aggressive pair. If you choose to do deep water soloing be sure to bring an older pair of shoes. Between the sand and the humidity my shoes got pretty beat up, I wouldn't recommend bringing brand new shoes.
Bring more than one pair of sandals! Chacos are great for the approach to a crag or hiking to the hidden lagoon, but Chacos in the ocean + sand = rubbing and blisters. A comfortable pair of flip-flops are were well worth it.
Where to stay: Railay is air-conditioned and touristy and TonSai is cheap and where the climbers usually stay. We didn't book a place beforehand and had no issue finding a place in TonSai, even during the Chinese New Year. The further you walk up the hill in TonSai, the cheaper the places tend to be. We stayed at the Countryside Resort for around $25 a night, which was about as cheap as it came for a bungalow during high season. What to expect for $25? Electricity only in the evenings and morning, cold showers, and some pesky insects flying around your room at night. Who can complain when you've got your own private bungalow near the beach in beautiful Thailand for ONLY $25 a night. Where ever you stay, the two things I'd recommend is a fan (ours only worked occasionally) and a mosquito net.
How to get there: Chances are you'll be flying into Bangkok because it's cheaper. You're next options are to fly from Bangkok to Krabi or Phuket , take a train from Bangkok, or a take a bus. We went to the train station the day before we wanted to leave to buy our tickets, but due to the Chinese New Year the train was sold out. Because we didn't want to wait around in Bangkok we chose the bus instead. The bus ride was a story on its own. Even though the bus is cheap it has its downfalls, and we'll probably fly to Krabi in the future. Lonely Planet's guidebook has it categorized as one of the scams in Thailand, and Sam Lightener Jr. speaks pretty poorly about it in the climbing book. They're both right. If you do choose to ride the bus, hold on tight and bring all of your valuables on the bus with you.
Needless to say, we went straight to the nearest internet café and booked a flight out of Krabi back to Bangkok for the way home. While a plane ticket costs around $150 per person, I didn't regret that decision at all.
On the bright side, transportation in Thailand was never hard to figure out, even the sketchy bus got us exactly where we needed to be.
About the rock: Beautiful Limestone formations everywhere! Be prepared for some of the craziest rock features you've ever seen. Some of the rock is very sharp and some a bit polished, the guidebook will be able to point you in the right direction as far as rock is concerned.
Working on endurance, pockets and pinchers would be a great way to train for this trip. Heading to your local climbing gym and playing on the overhanging wall would also benefit you. As far as gym climbing and rock climbing go, this is the only place where the two seem comparable. The biggest difference between climbing in Thailand and anywhere else I've ever been, is how three-dimensional the climbing is. If you get stuck on a crux move, be sure to look all around you (including behind you) for your next hold.
Everything is bolted and some routes have new bolts right next to the old bolts. The shiny bolts are not necessarily the best option, as Thailand uses Titanium glue-in bolts to help prevent rusting. Be sure to read up on this before you climb!
Ratings: At first, the ratings felt a little stiff, but as we continued climbing throughout the week we got familiar with the style of climbing, making the grades feel a bit easier.
If you climb 5.11+ the amount of routes available to you are endless, but don't be discouraged if you don't climb that hard. I found plenty of easier routes to keep me busy. If you're not big on lead climbing at your limit (like me) look into some of the climbing classes available in the area. Every corner you take there is another climbing shop.
My favorite routes were: Groove Tube, Mai Pen Rai, Missing Snow.
Rest days: We rarely climbed an entire day because it took us a while to figure out which crags were best for us. A lot of variations go into picking a crag: how far away it is, how bad are the mosquitos, is it tide dependent, does it get sun, and so on. We found the best solution was to climb in the morning until about noon, before it gets too hot. Climbing in the evening is great too, but the mosquitos get vicious.
For one rest day I'd highly recommend taking a Thai cooking class with Mrs. Ya! The class costs about $30 plus the boat ride to and from Ao Nang, but it's worth it. Not only do you make some of the best food you've ever tasted but she gives you a cook book (worth it's weight in gold) to bring back with you.
Another fun rest day adventure is the hike to the Hidden Lagoon. The hike itself is not that far but it's steep with muddy, slippery rock (it had rained the night before, but I think it's always muddy). One thing we didn't have time for, that I really wanted to try, was kayaking. While it's not the best activity for a rest day, it looked like a ton of fun!
Unexpected issues: I was surprised by the amount of people on Railay beach, but what I was more surprised and disappointed by was the amount of trash on TonSai beach. If TonSai continues to do nothing about the garbage this beautiful place will not be around for long. Be sure to do your part to avoid adding to the garbage. Two things you can do to help is by bringing your own water bottle instead of buying small plastic water bottles each day, and not using styrofoam.
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Before the trip I researched everything I could find about what to bring and places to stay and ultimately I think it's rather easy to plan for this trip, once you know where to start. Below are some of my suggestions for making the most of your trip to TonSai and Railay, Thailand:
Research the routes: Purchase the climbing guidebook before going and take a look at it in advance. I have a difficult time recommending only the newest guidebook, because both were useful. The newest guidebook, The Pocket Guide by Sirichai Pongsopon (which we bought once we got over there) is more up to date on route information, however the older book Thailand: A Climbing Guide by Sam Lightner Jr. has detailed information about the routes, Railay and TonSai itself. It's my first pick!
I would suggest taking a look at the routes you want to climb online to see how the grades compare to the book and also recent information on bolting.
What to bring: We had no problem getting our laundry washed for a couple of dollars while we were there, but it was still nice to have about 3 tops and 3 bottoms to alternate between for climbing. The amount of walking you do, plus the humidity (I've never sweat so much in my life) equals smelly climbing clothes. Because of the humidity, I found that if I hand-washed my climbing clothes they were never dry the next day.
We brought our own gear, which doesn't always make traveling easy, but knowing where a rope has been is a good feeling. We brought 12 draws which turned out to be enough. If you do need to rent gear, there are plenty of options.
I brought two pairs of climbing shoes. One aggressive pair and one old pair, but I only ended up using my aggressive pair. If you choose to do deep water soloing be sure to bring an older pair of shoes. Between the sand and the humidity my shoes got pretty beat up, I wouldn't recommend bringing brand new shoes.
Bring more than one pair of sandals! Chacos are great for the approach to a crag or hiking to the hidden lagoon, but Chacos in the ocean + sand = rubbing and blisters. A comfortable pair of flip-flops are were well worth it.
Where to stay: Railay is air-conditioned and touristy and TonSai is cheap and where the climbers usually stay. We didn't book a place beforehand and had no issue finding a place in TonSai, even during the Chinese New Year. The further you walk up the hill in TonSai, the cheaper the places tend to be. We stayed at the Countryside Resort for around $25 a night, which was about as cheap as it came for a bungalow during high season. What to expect for $25? Electricity only in the evenings and morning, cold showers, and some pesky insects flying around your room at night. Who can complain when you've got your own private bungalow near the beach in beautiful Thailand for ONLY $25 a night. Where ever you stay, the two things I'd recommend is a fan (ours only worked occasionally) and a mosquito net.
How to get there: Chances are you'll be flying into Bangkok because it's cheaper. You're next options are to fly from Bangkok to Krabi or Phuket , take a train from Bangkok, or a take a bus. We went to the train station the day before we wanted to leave to buy our tickets, but due to the Chinese New Year the train was sold out. Because we didn't want to wait around in Bangkok we chose the bus instead. The bus ride was a story on its own. Even though the bus is cheap it has its downfalls, and we'll probably fly to Krabi in the future. Lonely Planet's guidebook has it categorized as one of the scams in Thailand, and Sam Lightener Jr. speaks pretty poorly about it in the climbing book. They're both right. If you do choose to ride the bus, hold on tight and bring all of your valuables on the bus with you.
Needless to say, we went straight to the nearest internet café and booked a flight out of Krabi back to Bangkok for the way home. While a plane ticket costs around $150 per person, I didn't regret that decision at all.
On the bright side, transportation in Thailand was never hard to figure out, even the sketchy bus got us exactly where we needed to be.
About the rock: Beautiful Limestone formations everywhere! Be prepared for some of the craziest rock features you've ever seen. Some of the rock is very sharp and some a bit polished, the guidebook will be able to point you in the right direction as far as rock is concerned.
Working on endurance, pockets and pinchers would be a great way to train for this trip. Heading to your local climbing gym and playing on the overhanging wall would also benefit you. As far as gym climbing and rock climbing go, this is the only place where the two seem comparable. The biggest difference between climbing in Thailand and anywhere else I've ever been, is how three-dimensional the climbing is. If you get stuck on a crux move, be sure to look all around you (including behind you) for your next hold.
Everything is bolted and some routes have new bolts right next to the old bolts. The shiny bolts are not necessarily the best option, as Thailand uses Titanium glue-in bolts to help prevent rusting. Be sure to read up on this before you climb!
Ratings: At first, the ratings felt a little stiff, but as we continued climbing throughout the week we got familiar with the style of climbing, making the grades feel a bit easier.
If you climb 5.11+ the amount of routes available to you are endless, but don't be discouraged if you don't climb that hard. I found plenty of easier routes to keep me busy. If you're not big on lead climbing at your limit (like me) look into some of the climbing classes available in the area. Every corner you take there is another climbing shop.
My favorite routes were: Groove Tube, Mai Pen Rai, Missing Snow.
Rest days: We rarely climbed an entire day because it took us a while to figure out which crags were best for us. A lot of variations go into picking a crag: how far away it is, how bad are the mosquitos, is it tide dependent, does it get sun, and so on. We found the best solution was to climb in the morning until about noon, before it gets too hot. Climbing in the evening is great too, but the mosquitos get vicious.
For one rest day I'd highly recommend taking a Thai cooking class with Mrs. Ya! The class costs about $30 plus the boat ride to and from Ao Nang, but it's worth it. Not only do you make some of the best food you've ever tasted but she gives you a cook book (worth it's weight in gold) to bring back with you.
Another fun rest day adventure is the hike to the Hidden Lagoon. The hike itself is not that far but it's steep with muddy, slippery rock (it had rained the night before, but I think it's always muddy). One thing we didn't have time for, that I really wanted to try, was kayaking. While it's not the best activity for a rest day, it looked like a ton of fun!
Unexpected issues: I was surprised by the amount of people on Railay beach, but what I was more surprised and disappointed by was the amount of trash on TonSai beach. If TonSai continues to do nothing about the garbage this beautiful place will not be around for long. Be sure to do your part to avoid adding to the garbage. Two things you can do to help is by bringing your own water bottle instead of buying small plastic water bottles each day, and not using styrofoam.











